What a change of gear – from
Edo de Waart has done a great job turning this orchestra around and it now boasts some very fine players. What
Our last ACO stop on our European tour was in
We push on!
I haven’t heard much from the 2020 Summit, but scrolling through some blogs I found some disturbing reactions to there being a perceived disproportionate representation of ‘boring’ ‘ultra-conservative’ classical types.
One person [scroll down to comment #12] makes the comment that as classical music compromises only 1.5 % of CD sales that this was disproportionate to the general population.
The other disturbing reaction was to call Richard Gill ‘ultra-conservative’ because he and others are advocating a shift/return to a quality rigorous music education based on access to sound theoretical and practical training. Meaning you learn to play an instrument properly, as well as strum a guitar, and to read music.
Ok, he shouldn’t have brought hip hop into it ’cos we know hip hop artists can have a sharp and relevant language that resonates – think Danny Hock but at other end of the spectrum is mainstream of vacuous commercialism. As rapper 50 Cent’s manager said, “Our aim is to bring more brand to the youth quicker”. But just because you have access to a good and ‘Serious’ education doesn’t mean you can’t find your hip hop, beat, folk, post punk, pop, R&B voice. I don’t know what these people are proposing but to criticise the voice of Richard Gill, desperate to find the best possible education platform, is displaying a lamentable ignorance.
The other concern about the 1.5% of CD sales comment is equally worrying. The corollary of this argument being that the highest selling CD ‘artist’ should’ve been part of the
I pick up on these comments because I think they are most probably indicative of a generally held view point that ‘serious’ art education is elitist and ultra conservative. I repeat: all Gill and others are advocating is finding structure in music education that affords our population a strong musical base. No one is forcing you to attend an ultra-conservative concert. If these critics did ever attend a concert or if they had the courage to extend themselves they’d find an ACO concert can be a collaboration with some of Oz’s best poets and folk/pop/avant-garde/singer-songwriters et al. and that the education we have received liberates us to fly higher and further with art. The more you know the more you can enjoy.
This is what we are advocating with music education.
Think of Miles Davis and his education [at
Now let’s consider the opposite reality of the ‘ultra-conservative’ Jonny Greenwood – one of the musical minds of Radiohead. He had an ‘ultra-conservative’ ‘serious’ music education at
Richard Tognetti
2 comments:
Hi Robert,
I found your comment here via the trackbacks from my blog. I am not claiming to speak for or on behalf of Australian musicians however i need to pick you up on some of your comments.
Firstly, i think it is important to note that you have inaccurately characterised the people who left the comments in the blog that you linked to. I do not think that people like Julian Knowles (Head, School of Music & Drama at UOW and former(?) Member of the Australia Council music board) and Shannon O'Neil (artist, academic and curator, former director of Electrofringe and Liquid Architecture and is currently the program manager of ANAT's Embracing Sound Project) are hardly people who have never "had the courage to extend themselves" by attending an ACO concert.
I'd suggest from my own experience that it is the very types of people that you cite as your examples: classically trained and university educated contemporary musicians, with whom you are overwhelming having an argument by proxy.
I wrote an op-ed piece in the Sydney Morning Herald last year about the disproportionate funding that we give to companies that produce little or no original music and the disproportionate lack of support that we give to initiators and originators who are making original work. I made the point that in music at a federal level we spent 10 times as much money on the handful of companies supported by the Major Performing Arts fund as all other forms of music combined and i was genuinely surprised to discover that the overwhelming majority of positive feedback came from the very types of people that you described in the last paragraph.
You aren't arguing with heathens and hip-hoppers by and large - the very concept of state support is irrelevant to them.
It is unlikely that we will agree but i think it is extremely important that the nuances and specifics of the debate are on the table and not merely stereotypical misrepresentations.
As for the substantial point that the 2020 summit under-represented the contemporary music sector proportionally to the classical sector i think the argument they put forward is compelling. I don't think any reasonable person who looked at the backgrounds of the initial delegates would agree that it was proportionate when essentially all genres of commercial, independent, contemporary, experimental, electronic, rock, pop were overlooked. Not a single person.
In any case thanks for at least drawing some attention to the debate and best wishes for your tour.
Richard, My apologies for addressing the comments to Robert. The attribution of the post confused me!
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